1988. 1988.05.10. Interjú Kádár Jánossal / HU_BFL_XIV_47_2

has wide-ranging support. Bút what individuals think, I do nőt know, bút what I do know is that there are those who want a slower pace and there are those who want a faster one. So this is where the differences of opinion arise. What you have said about individuals, in my opinion, is an exaggeration, Yeltsin alsó exists... MCLAUGHLIN: The big problem is, perhaps you would agree, is inertia in the Soviet Union. The inertia of the bureaucracy. Gorbachev is hitting this head on. He is taking away 400,000 automobiles from party elite around the Soviet Union. You faced the problem of inertia. Correct? Correct? KADAR: [incomprehensible] MCLAUGHLIN: You think Gorbachev is going to make enemies by being so aggressive, so driving, so unremitting in the actions he's taking? KADAR: There are principal ideas in the Soviet Union's perestroika. General Secretary Gorbachev himself has mentioned at the top of his üst that it is necessary to think differently. This is familiar even in international questions, since it has arisen in the course of Soviet- American discussions, that is that the same questions must be looked at differently than earlier. Now when there is a large society, a great country, where it is demanded from a quite significant portion of people to think differently, to live differently, and to work differently, and so forth, then that is nőt a simple process. Since the power of familiarity is terrifying. Since when people are used to a certain method and tempó of work, then it is nőt simple to change it. This is a serious difficulty. This is the reason that Gorbachev had said that perestroika must solve weighty and great. problems, bút that it itself will alsó raise new problems and hardships. ' These are the hardships of rebuilding and readjustment. MCLAUGHLIN: Since I've been in Budapest, I have heard this said about you. That the Russians are clumsy. They do nőt know how to control impact, and they're playing with fire because the reforms are too fást and too deep, and it could have a spillover effect in Hungary and cause a replay of 1956. Is that your feeling? KADAR: No. '56 will never be repeated again in Hungary. It will never be repeated. There are other questions. What I'm talking about is that fór us now, as a result of the change in direction in the Soviet Union, as a result of perestroika and glasnost, our situaiton is easier than it was before. It is easier because the principal direction, the approach to principal questions and Solutions is similar to Jo-10-

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